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Should I Default on my Mortgage?

I get all sorts of comments on this blog, not to mention inquiries from prospective clients via email.  This one, which I’ll paraphrase, really caught my attention, as it presents a situation I suspect a lot of Florida homeowners are facing.  Here’s the question, and my response:

Question:  My wife and I have always paid our mortgage, but with the economy as it is we’ve struggled to do so recently.  Our house is about $150,000 underwater, and for the past year or so, we’ve borrowed money from my parents to make the mortgage payments.  Unfortunately, my parents can no longer afford to lend us any more money, so we’re trying to decide what to do. 

I’ve been asking the bank for a loan modification for many months.  They keep telling me “we’ll get back to you,” but then I never hear anything.  Most recently, the bank began insisting that my wife disclose her financial information as well.  I argued with them about this, since my wife wasn’t a borrower and did not sign the Note, but they insisted that the only way I would be considered for a loan modification was if my wife submitted her financial information as well. 

What should I do?  My wife doesn’t want to disclose anything, but if she doesn’t, and we don’t get a modification, then we can’t continue to keep making our mortgage payments for much longer. 

Answer:  First off, this might sound backwards to you, but I’m glad your parents are no longer giving/lending you money for your monthly mortgage payments.  I can understand the logic behind their doing so, don’t get me wrong, and I’m certainly not trying to criticize you or them.  However, as I’ve explained on many occasions, including here and here, depleting a 401(k), IRA, or savings account to make monthly mortgage payments on a house you just can’t afford is almost never a good idea. 

Please read this post, which I wrote in July, 2010.  As I explained there in detail, it’s almost never a good idea to deplete your savings to make monthly mortgage payments, as all that will happen is you’ll run out of savings and then still be facing foreclosure anyway.  If you realize you can’t afford to continue making monthly mortgage payments indefinitely into the future, isn’t it better to stop making those payments now, keep whatever money you have in your own pocket, and brace yourself for the impending foreclosure lawsuit, rather than spend all of your savings, then face foreclosure with no money left in your pocket? 

The fact that your parents were lending to you, as opposed to you depleting your own savings, doesn’t change my view.  In fact, it might make it worse.  Your parents are obviously older than you, so they’ll have fewer years in the work force (if any) to recover, and I suspect from your email that you’ve depleted your own savings, too.  Nonetheless, you’re still in the same situation you would have been in had you and your parents kept those monies in your own pockets – facing foreclosure. 

It’s critical for you, your parents, and all homeowners to realize that any money in your 401(k) or IRA can never be taken by the bank (i.e. to collect on a deficiency judgment) - the only way you’ll ever lose that money is if you take it out voluntarily.  Even if you get foreclosed, you’ll still get to keep your 401(k) and IRA monies.  Even if you have to file bankruptcy, you’ll still get to keep your 401(k) and IRA monies.  Hence, I can hardly imagine a circumstance where it makes sense to dip into these accounts to make mortgage payments.  I suppose a temporary reduction in income could justify doing so for a short period of time, but that’s the catch – lots of people think/hope their reduction in income is temporary, but before they know it, they’ve made a year of mortgage payments from their IRA or 401(k) with no end in sight. 

Obviously you can’t go back in time, and my point isn’t to beat you over the head with things you can’t change.  Rather, my point is to help you realize, going forward, that it’s probably best that you and your parents stop depleting your savings to make monthly payments on a mortgage you cannot afford. 

I can understand you thinking “let’s keep making the payments and try to get a modification … if we get a loan modification, and our monthly payment is reduced, then maybe we can afford to stay here.”  Candidly, LOTS of homeowners have that mindset, especially in Florida.  Unfortunately, as I’ve explained many times, including here, here, and here, loan modifications are rare, particularly those with principal reductions, and banks/servicers have all sorts of perverse financial incentives not to provide modifications to well-intentioned homeowners.  Hence, what you view as “temporarily borrowing until we get a modification” or “temporarily using savings until we get a modification” is more like “depleting savings waiting for a modification that’s probably never going to come.” 

As for the issue of whether you should disclose your wife’s finances, let’s put it this way.  I agree with you – it’s hard to see how the bank needs your wife’s finances to evaluate you for a modification, since she wasn’t on the loan in the first place.  In that sense, it seems logical to withhold this information.  However, if you’re adamant about getting a modification, and that’s what the bank is saying they need, it won’t help to withhold it.  Frankly, it doesn’t seem like you’re going to get the modification you want either way you proceed.  Hence, whether to disclose her finances is probably a matter of how you’ll feel if you get rejected again and didn’t disclose them.  Will it eat at you to feel like you didn’t do everything you could?  Will you feel better knowing you disclosed them, even if you get rejected, as you’ll at least know you did everything you could? 

I hate to see you in this situation.  However, nothing breaks my heart more than the conversations I’ve had with clients, particularly older clients, who tell me they’ve depleted all of their savings and are now being sued for foreclosure.  Please don’t make this mistake.  It’s bad enough to face foreclosure – it’s even worse to do so after you’ve spent all of your money.

Mark Stopa

www.stayinmyhome.com

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13 Responses to Should I Default on my Mortgage?

  1. Robert Evich says:

    Good advice Mark. I have heard of too many stories of people impoverishing themselves in a desperate attempt to keep their underwater home, listening to the pretender lenders lies and getting foreclosed on anyway. They wind up broke, no $ for an attorney, no $ for movers or$ for deposits for an apartment. The bankers crreated a Ponzi scheme that has wrecked the world’s economy & too many people haven’t figured this out, they are too busy simply trying to survive.

    • Dead Beat says:

      You will see the Servicers trying to suck every cent out of a borrower a common theme. They love to do this with HAMP trial period payments. Often they exceed the 3 trial payments by over a year before the homeowners are declined and the foreclosure proceeds. If you truly want a modification, the best way to get one is have an attorney represent you and negotiate one in your best interest. Most of the time a homeowner doesn’t “negotiate” a modification, they just get an offer that is in the best interest of the bank, take it or leave it.

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  3. Mark Bowen says:

    Good post. I would add that, unless one may believe that a modification of some benefit to the homeowner is imminent (which is never the case), it would be incredibly foolish to provide any financial information to someone who will undoubtedly, at some point in the future, be filing a lawsuit against you. This is tantamount to mediation with the foreclosing party. You will give them everything they need to destroy you, and they will give you nothing in return.

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  6. r stoltz says:

    Say you took out a $400,000 mortgage several years ago. You could be underwater by about $200,000 today and maybe by more tomorrow. Now the amount of your monthly payments is enough to cover two properties like the one you have, but of course you only have one property. The chances of property values returning to where they were when you took out your mortgage are slim to none. This collapse in real estate value didn’t just happen by chance – the banksters engineered it so they could sell your loan through a variety of financial instruments to unsuspecting investors. It may well be that the balance of your loan is actually zero by now, and the banksters could have made several times the amount of your loan. You’re not even going to get an “attaboy” out of the deal. But don’t surrender,hire an honest lawyer who has expertise in this area, and you may even get to keep your property.

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  8. Geanette says:

    I read this article and understand the logic of not using 401K and savings to pay for mortgage, but is the prospect of getting a modification really that far fetched?? How dangerous! My question, is can one go to court and sue to banks into giving then a modification if they truly qualify??

    I informed the banks in 2009, that I would have problems paying my current mortgage and requested a modification…of course, they played the “lost paperwork” game, etc and now, over 2years later, still no modification. Not only that, I am now 10 months behind on my mortgage. The reason why I am not 2 years behind is because I have sent them the equivalent of 30% of my gross income according to the amount a HAMP modification would result in.

    The bank contributed to my delinquency because of their unwillingness to modify my mortgage…can I use this argument in court should they actually start to foreclose on me?? Thanks.

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